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A Rebel's Ramblings
by: FAN4YRS
date posted: Aug 16, 2007 10:28 PM
Reading Through the Prequels
Today I picked up the omnibus featuring all three Prequel novelizations. To be honest, I started reading PHANTOM MENACE when the film came out, but got frustrated with all of the additional material. However, I guess I am still hoping the Prequel Trilogy, one way or another, will grow on me. So I am attempting to read the book versions of each film.

I thought I would include you in this, because there might be times when I want to discuss certain passages or characters and I thought your insights would be intriguing.

So far, I am interested in the old spacer that Anakin and his friends meet early on in the book. I envy him, to a degree, because he served the Republic at a time that would soon seem peaceful, pleasant even. He also seemed to speak as something of a narrator. Once or twice he uses the phrase "a long time ago" and I am surprised the author didn't have him say: "in a galaxy far, far away."


  Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
date Posted: Aug 16, 2007 10:37 PM
That old spacer is included in either: the comic adaptation of the movie, or the Episode 1 Adventures comic. I'd go and check for you, but alas, I'm at work.

Anyway, he kind of reminds me of Noa, the guy played by Wilfred Brimble in the second Ewok movie. Not physically, just a presence of "being around the block" a few times whilst having a good heart.

I can't remember much else different from the novel and the movie, other than the revelation about Darth Bane.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 16, 2007 10:40 PM
To me he's almost a forerunner of Han Solo, or even Luke Skywalker. Luke had more of a wide-eyed view of the world (even though we meet him at age 20 and Anakin at 9, Luke was more optomistic, but then being a slave would make you cynical).
  Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
date Posted: Aug 16, 2007 10:55 PM
Well, I expect he'd be Han Solo at the age of 60, if Han hadn't joined the adventure. But, look at Han now in the Legacy of the Force novels, he turned out quite differently than the old spacer.

They could both have ended up in the "Old Spacer Retirement Home", but for a twist of fate.
  vadersgirl33
vadersgirl_reflections
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 7:50 AM
To me he's almost a forerunner of Han Solo
I got that impression as well.
I like the PT for what it is- the story of how a young jedi becomes a sith lord. But I am like you- I prefer the OT, and hope the PT grows on me. Even my hubby doesn't care much for them- he doesn't watch Star Wars when I watch them, but will if it's the OT.

cont......
  vadersgirl33
vadersgirl_reflections
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 7:53 AM
For some of us who grew up on the OT, it's going to be a long time before we really get into the PT. Now that it's out, we can see the whole story, but us older folks would rather re-watch the classics (OT).
I've read the novels of all six, but it's been a while. Look forward to reading your thoughts on them.

vadersgirl33
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 8:09 AM
Thanks for your thoughts, and ability to relate, vadersgirl33.

Rogueish, I can't relate to your remarks about Han Solo because I really can't comprehend anything after "Return of the Jedi". Lucas himself has said that in his mind Han and Leia involved themselves in simple domestic life and had a bunch of regular kids. Mark Hamill believes Luke went off to contemplated the universe after the fall of the Empire...
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 8:11 AM
To me the Expanded Universe from 1990 on was just a money-making scheme. If you take it seriously then it has turned a fairytale into a nightmare, it has made a war that should have ended with the death of the Emperor into a generational crisis with no end in sight.

I prefer to leave our heroes with #107 of Marvel Star Wars--Luke, Han, Leia, Chewbacca, Lando, and the droids are all still alive and well and peace is about to come to the galaxy. I think these characters were always peaceful people who do not thrive in war, but peace. I think...
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 8:14 AM
After having paid his life debt Chewbacca would have returned to his own family on Kashyyyk and lived hundreds of years and eventaully die of natural causes.

Leia, and other survives of Alderaan, would have founded Alderaan II and she and Han (in my mind) married at the end of Episode VI. Han was a natural at domestic bliss and they lived their lives outside of the miilitary.

Luke Skywalker returned to Dagobah to really begin his training as a Jedi. Remember, "wars don't make one great", and now Luke would have to learn peace--something he never really had even as a youth.

I believe all of them got together from time to time.

That's how I like to think of life after "Jedi" for "my friends".
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day (gone fishin')
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 8:28 AM
I never read the adaptations... though I heard that the third one is quite excellent. Let us know if you get through 'em!
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:55 PM
To me the Expanded Universe from 1990 on was just a money-making scheme. If you take it seriously then it has turned a fairytale into a nightmare, it has made a war that should have ended with the death of the Emperor into a generational crisis with no end in sight.

Yes! I absolutely agree with you on this, though I would say that I do think at least the early Bantam books kept this idea, that these were nothing more than birthing pains of a new order, that it would all soon be over and our heroes would live their lives out in peace. But the death knell, for me, was the NJO, and the careless way it irrevocably destroyed all progress made since ROTJ, killing main characters and planets willy-nilly.

(cont)
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 12:55 PM
The modern EU, I think, has really lost sight of the inherent optimism and fairy-tale nature of the saga. It's turned the Star Wars universe into an almost...dystopian place, more akin to dark and depressing apocalyptic sci-fi than anything GL ever did. I think, now, more than ever, the characters need to be given the happy endings they were denied at the end of ROTJ. But, thanks to Legacy, even that's denied them...

Sorry for all the griping, but your post really hit a nerve. Good luck with your reading! :D
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 1:23 PM
That's OK, I don't consider it gripping, just a plain retelling of the true state of affairs.
  Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 3:03 PM
Whilst I appreciate everyone's opinions on the EU, I for one, have loved it. However, I draw the line at a TV series. I wonder if you guys against the EU are up for some of this? I would hazard a guess that you are, as it is set within the timeline of the films, ie, between the abysmal III and the perfect IV.

Unfortunately, I am against a TV show. I can't put my finger on it, I just cringe at the idea.

However, I guess when the TV show comes about, it wont be EU, so I shouldn't have any qualms, should I?
  Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 3:04 PM


Anyway, getting back on track...the spacer was ineed fleshed out in the Episode 1 Adventures comics. He is in a total of 2 frames in one page, and that's it. Not exactly getting fleshed out, but his appearance left a mark on me, for some reason.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 4:13 PM
I remember being 13 (1987) and saying to my older brother that I wish "Star Wars" had several novels like "Star Trek", he hit the nail on the head by saying "that's a quick way to get bored of something".

I guess a TV Series wouldn't be EU, in the sense that it would as "canon", a word I hate to use about a fictional drama, as the movies. However, I am not looking forward to the show either. I think Lucas had it right in the 70s and 80s when, outside of 1977-1983 "Star Wars" merchandising was few and far between. I think 95% of the world (who is aware of "Star Wars") thinks of the films when they hear the words, not books, no TV cartoons, and many not even the Special Editions or the Prequels.
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 17, 2007 4:14 PM
Getting back to the spacer, which Episode I adventure is it, I suppose Anakin's? I may check that out. Thanks for the info, Rogueish.
  Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
date Posted: Aug 19, 2007 12:59 PM
which Episode I adventure is it, I suppose Anakin's?

Yessir, written by Timothy Truman and drawn by Steve Crespo, arguably the best of the four "Adventures"
FAN4YRS
A Rebel's Ramblings
date Posted: Aug 19, 2007 1:04 PM
Thanks for your response.
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