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Rive's Uncharted Settlements
by: Rive Caedo
date posted: Oct 22, 2006 2:41 AM  | 
updated: Oct 22, 2006 12:30 PM
Woah!
Picture the following: a world controlled by the Empire with thousands of Rebel Alliance prisoners under their grip for months. After extensive planning the Rebel fleet attempts a rescue of these prisoners - a rebel cruiser jumps out of hyperspace inside the atmosphere of the world and then begins plummeting towards the ground in a state of freefall. In the scant seconds it has before hitting the ground it launches X-Wings, Y-Wings, and a few A-Wings from its hangar bay to immediately intercept the TIE-Fighters preventing the Rebel prisoners from stealing ships and leaving the planet. Moments before hitting the ground, the rebel carrier re-enters Hyperspace and vanishes entirely - reappearing soon after to engage Imperial Star Destroyers in orbit.

Now just replace "Rebel Alliance" with "Human Survivors", "The Empire" with "Cylons", and "a rebel cruiser" with "the Battlestar Galactica" and you have the latest episode of BSG in a nutshell. Oh, and "Sultry Robot Girl" with "Darth Vader" :p

Wanna See? (even if the tiny YouTube window doesn't really do it justice)
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"Woah"

I'm not really a man to respond audibly to television or movies. Even if I find something extremely funny I'm not likely to let out much more than a chuckle (I hate laugh tracks on sitcoms for that reason). Thus why my actually saying "woah" twice during this week's episode of Battlestar is near earth-shattering.

Or... Maybe I'm being a bit overly dramatic :D

But it was a very, very, very good episode.

If you really don't care about spoilers, here was the second "woah" moment.
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((Here we go with the meat of the entry, feel free to skip to the next Divider Line if you don't care about my opinion on crafting a TV show... but why are you reading blogs if you don't care about crazy, rambling opinions? :) ))

Now - rather than speak to the few (at least I suspect so... please comment if you do) people here who actively follow Battlestar Galactica about how frakin' cool this episode was - I'm going to talk about this little story arc Battlestar has been doing for the past month in terms of the future of Star Wars - The Star Wars TV Series.

Ah yes, that mysterious little series that we know nothing about. So what are we discussing today?

Earning a Moment

If you watched that little YouTube clip linked above or read my little opening paragraph and don't watch Battlestar you probably though "Huh... Neat" or "Cool!" or - far more likely - "What's going on? I can't see a thing! Frak you, Rive! I'm going to read a blog about Mace Windu's lightsaber!". In any case, you didn't - couldn't - pick up on much of the context for the moment or the significance of it. It was a fancy little light show. In the same way, imagine if you saw the assault on the Death Star, but not Alderaan's destruction. You'd have no sense of purpose and importance - the moment wouldn't be earned.

Every moment in Exodus Part II (the episode of Battlestar being discussed - try to keep up folks!) was earned in the previous three episodes (and the season finale of season 2 and the online webisodes). My primary concern with Star Wars TV has always been "will it be done well?". I love Jedi and explosions (note to BSG fans: Pegasus! Noooooo!) as much as the next guy or gal, but if you just fill up every episode with lightsaber fights and fighter dogfights you don't have a good TV show, you have a lightshow (thus why most Star Wars fan films have the "ooo cool!" factor, rather than the "woah" factor). I like lightshows, but if you've seen one; you've seen them all. Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation fall into this hole - every episode is a seperate adventure and for that reason most of them fall into a select number of storylines (big bad alien, time warp, nebula that does weird stuff, etc). Later series attempted to create ongoing storylines of a sorts, but these often fell flat (which is what I fear from Star Wars TV - who cares if the Death Star has some supply difficulties? We know it gets finished).

There were plenty of earned moments in the Prequel Trilogy. Anakin's duel with Obi-Wan being the most obvious. We saw them build a partnership in Episode II and the beginning of III and then saw it beak apart. They didn't just start slicing at each other for 9 minutes of screen time without any real depth behind it (Maul, I'm looking at you). It's arguable whether Padme and Anakin's relationship was earned. Some argue for the whole "love at first sight" thing... which may be weakened due to Anakin being played by two different actors - it breaks our ties to the foundation of the relationship. In contrast, Han and Leia's relationship was almost doubtlessly earned. (Note to Battlestar fans - Billy and Dualla was earned and worked off a "love at first sight" principle).

So what does this all boil down to? In my opinion (whose else would it be?) it comes down to patience. If you aren't willing to watch Luke be established as the farm boy on a desert world then his later adventures and self-awakening into a hero is contrived and less satisfying. Oh dear, I'm about to go into a tangent about how Mos Eisley should be boring... again - so I'll cut off here.
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Long story short: Exodus Part II was awesome and I can only hope that Star Wars TV is half as good. B-)
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Rive "The Rambling Cylon" Caedo
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jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 7:05 AM
You don't need to tell me just how "woah" the new BSG is. I've been hooked for a long time, and my Friday nights have turned into BSG night. Except for that I'm out of town and missed Exodus Part 2 this Friday. Gah! I'm cutting this trip short to catch the next rerun (tommorrow night). I had it taped, but still... It's all I've been able to frakking think about. ]:)
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 7:16 AM
Sorry - After skimming over the blog for fear of Ex. 2 spoilers, I realized it was safe. I concur - one of the factors in the quality of BSG is the build up of the storyline. It ain't the kind of show you can easily jump in mid season and get into (hence the "Story so Far" features, etc.). It's unfortunate b/c that may keep a lot of people from watching it. I hope SW is this good too. BSG is epic TV.
  Tar_Ranth
Bounty Hunters Pride - the ramblings of Louis Turfrey
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 8:10 AM
Excellent! I'm a UK fan, and reviewer of the BG series, and I managed to watch this on a 50" Projection connected to my PC's surround sound system (the whole episode that is).

It really is getting better and better as time goes on - eats Star Gate for breakfast.

Just hope that the SW:TV series is at least this good - otherwise I for one will be mega-dissapointed,,,
  jkelly
There Is No Conflict
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 8:17 AM
Star Trek: The Next Generation fall into this hole

You forgot about how the crew on TNG reconfigured the dish array every other episode.

I've tried, but still can't get into BSG, mainly because of the fact that Edward James Olmos keeps making me think of Miami. When I finally get past, all I can see is Jaime Escalante saying, "But you're get college credit for the calculus."
  Captain Peabody
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 12:44 PM
Star Trek: The Next Generation fall into this hole

I'm not sure I agree with you on this one.....I think Trek (especially TNG) was the exact opposite of the lightshow (very few battle scenes, a slow pace, problems solved with boring dialogue instead of massive fight scenes, etc). I agree about the recycled storylines, though.
  Rive Caedo
Rive's Uncharted Settlements
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 12:59 PM
It ain't the kind of show you can easily jump in mid season

I made the mistake of getting a friend to start watching 2 episodes ago - without any recap. I'm having to answer questions such as "So who's this Baltar guy?", weekly :p

It really is getting better and better as time goes on - eats Star Gate for breakfast.

Be sure to wash that down with some X-Files or something. :D

You forgot about how the crew on TNG reconfigured the dish array every other episode.

"If we reconfigure the deflector dish array to generate a tachyon pulse we could create an inverse flux distortion field that would cause the nebula to collapse into its own temporal signature!"

Mmm... Tachyons.
  Rive Caedo
Rive's Uncharted Settlements
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 1:03 PM
I'm not sure I agree with you on this one.....I think Trek (especially TNG) was the exact opposite of the lightshow (very few battle scenes, a slow pace, problems solved with boring dialogue instead of massive fight scenes, etc).

I actually did like Star Trek - especially TNG - but my point was that it was very difficult for them to earn a moment. Every episode had the same weight behind it as previous one for the most part. The exception to this might notably be "The Best of Both Words", where Picard was turned into a Borg, which was a two part episode and did let them earn some moments. If you make Picard into a Borg and then solve the issue in the same episode - it loses meaning and depth.
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 2:56 PM
"Whoa!" just about sums it up!

Exodus, Part II definitely nailed the " frakkin' cool!" factor and had no shortage of drama and poignant moments (the scene with Tigh and his wife comes to mind -- that was absolutely heart-wrenching). I was worried that the show seemed to be rushing through the New Caprica plotline way too fast, but everything culminated just beautifully in that episode. To say it was a satisfying end to that story arc would be a gross understatement.
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 2:57 PM
I really hope the creators of the Star Wars TV series are watching BSG and taking notes. Battlestar Galactica really excels at the longer story arcs that are needed to keep viewers coming back, and make perfectly normal people like me into addicted fans. ;)

One of the reasons I didn't like many of the Star Wars Bantam novels was because many of them had little effect on the overall storyline. I loved the NJO because it allowed for long-term character development and a large-scale, cohesive story arc. Now, that's not to say that the Star Wars TV show needs to have arcs that are 19 episodes long, buy hey, sometimes you've gotta roll the hard six.
  darkclone#1
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 3:25 PM
That was funny! I was going to say, it sounded alot like BattleStar? Because I watch fridays episode cause I'm a huge fan. And I thought that was really cool when they did that. I cried when Pegesus blew up! (not really)
  independentjac
"How long can any man fight the darkness, before he finds it in himselft?"
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 3:30 PM
wow.....my friends get to see that......please tell me why I don't watch that show? what is the date and time for the next one?
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: Oct 22, 2006 7:18 PM
I am more and more intrigued by BSG every time I hear about it, and I liked the clips. jkthunder has gotten me about ready to get the series (I need something to watch once I finish Firefly & Serenity)...so you're saying it makes sense to watch from the beginning, not jumo in and ask lame questions.

Check.

  Kenobi-fan
The Jundland Wastes Journal
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 7:45 AM
Now just replace "Rebel Alliance" with "Human Survivors", "The Empire" with "Cylons", and "a rebel cruiser" with "the Battlestar Galactica" and you have the latest episode of BSG in a nutshell. Oh, and "Sultry Robot Girl" with "Darth Vader"
Nice description, Rive...just like Firefly, I'm more intrigued than ever about this series. I'm finding that it really takes a fan to create another one...A-fan reproduction, I guess it could be called. Ha!
RojoTrooper
Star Wars Recycled Art Project
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 11:55 AM
BSG is amazing. Welcome to the Frakkin show!
I hope the SW TV shows hit somewhere between BSG, Star Trek, and Firefly!

CE

  RiverTam
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 12:26 PM
Simon and Kaylee. They really earned that one. Mal and Inara - wait for Serenity 2.
Leland Y Chee
Keeper of the Holocron's Blog
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 12:49 PM
I was worried that the show seemed to be rushing through the New Caprica plotline way too fast
I was feeling the opposite - it seemed like it was gonna take the whole half season to get off that rock. And then, from out of the blue, this episode came along and blew all those feelings to smithereens. And talk about bittersweet endings. Aside from the Adamas, who isn't psychologically frakked up from all that happened in this episode?
  Rive Caedo
Rive's Uncharted Settlements
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 3:45 PM
I really hope the creators of the Star Wars TV series are watching BSG and taking notes.

Note 1: No Muffits :D

what is the date and time for the next one?

Fridays at 9PM on SciFi. I recommend you head over to the TV show section of iTunes and download the first episode of Battlestar to see if you like the tone.

so you're saying it makes sense to watch from the beginning

Certainly, if you have that option.

A-fan reproduction

mmm... but peer pressure is so much more fun! Mob rule! :)

Aside from the Adamas, who isn't psychologically frakked up from all that happened in this episode?

Tyrol and Cally got off pretty easy :)
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 6:19 PM
Note 1: No Muffits

:^O

You know, I just watched some of the originals a few days ago for the first time! Had myself one hilarious time, too. That thing definitely needs to be shot. Of course, no one (human or cylon) seems to know how to aim...
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 6:47 PM
Note 1: No Muffits

Note 2: No Muffit IIs :p

Okay... I'm still waiting on seeing Exodus 2.

That's no way to treat a friend: by introducing them to this at the beginning of season3!:O

If I could make the old BSG go away, I would. Sometimes I wish no one had ever seen it, so they wouldn't think the new BSG was anything like it. Well, it is.. but really it isn't. With that thought it will be really interesting to see how the live action SW TV show bridges the gap back to 1977. Maybe they'll need a banana peel powered Delorean X-Wing.
  Rive Caedo
Rive's Uncharted Settlements
date Posted: Oct 23, 2006 8:24 PM
You know, I just watched some of the originals a few days ago for the first time!

I had seen a few of them scattered across the years, but didn't really remember anything. Just saw the 2 part Pegasus episode from the originals a week or so ago...

Baltar... wearing a Cylon helmet. If the Baltar of the current series ever does that I'll eat my hat.

Supposedly the "Galactica: 1980" series was far, far, far, far worse. So I'm avoiding that one like the Star Wars Holiday Special :p

Maybe they'll need a banana peel powered Delorean X-Wing.

Lock gull-wing doors in attack positon. :)
Jedi Master Mina
Jedi blogging, go back to your drinks!
date Posted: Oct 24, 2006 8:33 PM
Frak you, Rive! I'm going to read a blog about Mace Windu's lightsaber!".

I could not have said it any better. :D

I like BSG, the original. I just can't seem to get motivated into the new BSG. What can I say. I'm an original kind of gal, like the OOT. ;)

Hey, Georgie could write about the moon and sun in the SW TV show and I'd still watch it. I don't care what it is about, as long as I get my STAR WARS fix.
  Ren K'Baul
Knight of the Grey Order
date Posted: Oct 29, 2006 8:13 PM

I agree completely with your sentiments Rive.

I'm not sure if I've ever typed down the words(err...can't find anything obvious..possibly in one of your earlier blogs on the TV series proposal), but in my Mind's Eye, I have always seen SW TV as treading the same path as Galactica.

I Sky+'d every episode of BSG, shown on UK television thus far. The recent Doctor Who series is the only other Sci-Fi bedfellow on this very selective listing.

I would quite happily nod approvingly if GL "poached" the whole production crew to assist in his new creation: It just makes sense. :p
  Marvolo7
Marvolo's Misanthropic Musings
date Posted: Nov 05, 2006 1:15 PM
I wonder if you've seen this yet, Rive...

Here's a little something for the fans of the new show.

:^O
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