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Lightsaber Color Symbolism
by: JesusDrinksWindex
date posted: Aug 27, 2005 10:38 PM
Lightsaber Color Symbolism
Growing up with the OT, it was very safe to say that green and blue were good colors, and red was the evil color. Do these still hold ground today? Maybe. In a series about good vs. evil, the colors of lightsabers became a sort of symbolism. The OT holds this true, and even Ep 1 holds this into regard. But in Ep 2, it all starts going to Hell. It's confusing, but it all makes sence when you start thinking about it.

As you all (should) know, the color of the lightsaber depends on what color crystal is inserted into the hilt. These crystals grow in caves, and part of Jedi training includes building your own lightsaber. What stops a Jedi from putting a red crystal in their lightsaber? History.

My theory on how red lightsabers came to repreent the Sith is an easy to follow one . Before the Sith formed under Darth Bane, Jedi likely used red sabers all the time. However, during the Jedi Civil War, many people were unable to tell the Jedi from the Sith because the two groups were actually very similar in nature. An easy way to identify a Sith from a Jedi could have been the red saber. The Sith probably adopted it as a uniform of their own to tell themselves apart from the Jedi. They chose red because it's the color of blood and fire, and it's capable of striking fear into he hearts of their opponents. Since then, a Jedi using a red saber was probably looked down upon. What once could have been a noble color of lightsaber had been turned to a symbol of evil.

With that said, that leaves every other possible color to the Jedi. A common theory is that blue represents an inexperienced Jedi and a green one represents a Jedi Master. This is proved wrong in both the OT and the PT. In the OT, if we were just looking at Luke, this theory might hold water. However, Obi-Wan is obviously a Jedi Master, yet he uses a blue saber. In the PT, we see a group of young padawans training with Yoda, all with mixed lightsabers; blue and green. The padawans with green lighsabers are obviously not Jedi Masters. And also, if green symbolized Jedi Mastery, then why are devoted Jedi Masters such as Plo Koon, Ki Adi Mundi, and Shaak Ti all using blue sabers? I believe that blue and green sabers are not symbols of experience and power with the force, but symbols of their focus. Anakin and Obi-Wan are powerful Jedi, but their focus is on lighsaber combat. This is probably what the blue saber signifies. The green lightsaber probably means that the user is well bonded with the force. Sorry Yoda fans, but Yoda puts far more focus on using his mind to control the force than in his lightsaber combat. Face it, Yoda couldn't beat Palps in a saber fight if his life depended on it. Yoda used not his lightsaber to it's full potential, but his ability to control the force. To put it short and simple, blue means a Jedi who focuses on combat and a green lightsaber is for a Jedi who focuses on the force. Mace Windu is truly gifted Jedi Master in both aspects and is truly the only one who focuses and masters both equally. He's a diplomat who only uses his lightsaber when he absolutely has to. When he does, he's the best saber fighter the galaxy has ever seen. Thus, that is probably why he is the only one with a purple saber.

Another very simple thing I must clear up. Why did Darth Vader use a blue lightsaber to fight Obi-Wan on Mustafar and not a red one? After all, he was a Sith, wasn't he? What did you want him to do? Take a break from slaughtering Jedi and make a new lightsaber? He had a blue lightsaber even though his true affiliation with the force usually means he is supposed to be using a red saber. He had to make due and wait until he had time to make a new one. The same goes for Luke. He was a green waiting to be unleashed, bur he was using his father's lightsaber which happened to be blue. Again, he had to make due until it was time for him to make a new lightsaber. Just like the real world, sometimes we just have to take what life gives us and make the best. Another example, Obi-Wan finished off Darth Maul with a green saber even though his focus would classify him a blue. Even if your personality screams, "Blue Lightsaber!" and you happen to be using a green one that isn't your's, you jsut have to make due. Don't let these switches confuse you.

In conclusion, there is viable reason for the way lightsabers are. They help classify a Jedi (or a Sith) so to speak. Either that, or they just like the color. What do you think?

  Darth Ty Sith Lord
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 10:50 PM
That's what i have always assumed, but I'm not sure if I agree completly about Mace.
  Darth Jeks
Shadow of a Hidden Thought
date Posted: Aug 27, 2005 11:22 PM
Very interesting entry! I'll have to watch them all again now with that in mind to decide for myself, but I like the thought. I have to agree with the above comment about Mace though- I like the thought that his is purple because he used anger in his fighting style which is typically considered a dark side trait.
  rabidewok4
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 2:39 AM
As for the sith using the Red sabers, we must look at the origin of the crystals. The green and blue lightsabers are constructed from natural crystals which are gathered presumably during a jedi trial. On the other hand, the red lightsabers are constructed from artificial crystals. The artificial crystals are easier to obtain since it is constructed at ones leisure. This follows the principle that the Darkside is the easier path traveled. It is easier to follow ones emotions rather than control them. The jedi on the other hand live a life of trials, hence the trial of gathering a crystal for lightsaber construction. Well, that is my thoughts on the subject.
  LordTerro
Lord Terro's Power To The People.
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 3:21 AM
I believe this is a Very good point you have Here. Although you are Missing something: The other Colours such as Yellow. The lightsaber Is a Symbol to Those who wield It.

And to your Question of why Did anakin ((As Vader)) Not use a RED Saber on Mustafar. Two simple Solutions,One true,One possible.

He was NOT Given his Lightsaber by Palpatine yet.
Deep inside He wanted to Finish Obi-Wan with The weapon he Had trained him to Use.
  yoda's master apprentice
The most foolish Jedi Master
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 3:27 AM
this is a gr8 blog but I don't agree with all of it the 1st and 4 most is that the reason Yoda can't beat palps is not because he was weaker but because he was so connected 2 the force that the Jedi dying crippled him If u watch ROTS movie again when order 66 is started yoda losses his walking stick and falls 2 his knees so the matter is that Yoda is in a way 2 close 2 the force and he still hadn't fully recovered from order 66 :p there 4 in a ways confirming what u've said about Yoda be4
  Darth Flibble1
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 3:29 AM
the sith create their own crystals, focusing all their rage & anger into their construction, which is what makes them red. jedi however, use natural crystals they have to find in caves on various worlds. in the past their were many systems with crystals that could be used for 'sabers, which is why there were so many more colours available to the pre-prequel Jedi. but during the sith war most of these caves were destroyed by the Sith, who hoped cutting the jedi off from their crystal source would weaken them. in the end only one cave remained (on ossus i think, can't really remember), which only produced green & blue crystals.
  Darth Flibble1
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 3:29 AM
basically i think lucas chose red cos its the colour that embodies evil for the sith, & green & blue because they are 'natural' colours for the jedi, who would be more attuned to nature, the force etc
  Darth Flibble1
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 3:31 AM
basically i think lucas chose red cos its the colour that embodies evil for the sith, & green & blue because they are 'natural' colours for the jedi, who would be more attuned to nature, the force etc
  babubusters
Did Anakin/Vader kill all the Jedi in the temple easily?
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 4:10 AM
well in jedi apprentice 1 obi wan is sparring against a fellow jedi student called bruck. obi wan has a blue lightsaber and bruck has a RED one. ?:| this happens before qui gon chooses obi wan as an apprentice.
  Lord__Sidious33
The Revelation of Sidious
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 4:33 AM
In KOTOR I when you are on Dantooine and you are becoming a padawan you have to make a lightsaber. Well the crystals that they have have three colors, or classes. The colors are blue, green, and yellow. The blue,Jedi Gardiuan, is concetrated on lightsaber combat and comes with the force power of force jump. The green,Jedi Concilar, is about mastery of the force, not fighting. The yellow,Jedi Sentinal, is about solving things peacfully. Darth Malak and Darth Reven, Darth Traya, Darth Nihilus, and Darth Sion all had red lightsabers. But they were years before Darth Bane's time.

cont.
  Lord__Sidious33
The Revelation of Sidious
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 4:34 AM
cont. Also some of the dark jedi in KOTOR had purple lightsabers and red lightsabers. So I guess that purple was just one color that wasn't important like orange, varidian, and silver. The reason Mace had a purpleis because him,Samuel L. Jackson, asked GL to make him have a purple lightsaber and he did it. There you go! Nice blog!
  Tu®gon
Gondolin
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 8:48 AM
I think you're making a big explanation out of the blue/green that doesn't need to be explained. The available crystals in the caves on ilum were green and blue (and purple in the clone wars). I think it's just the individual Jedi's preference...
  Yoda_ JediMaster
The Jedi Order
date Posted: Aug 28, 2005 9:45 PM
Nice blog. Lord__Sidious33 hit the subject right on the head there with his comment. The colour of your lightsaber is usually matching with the colour the classes usually have. Although some aren't bothered by such things and alter the colours themselves.
  JesusDrinksWindex
Lightsaber Color Symbolism
date Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:08 PM
As you can probably tell from my av, I've played the KOTOR games, (and loved them) but I discredit a lot of the ideas. After all, in the first one the Sith are depicted as a sort of cult, loosley resembling the Empire from the Galactic Civil War Era.(I mean, c'mon, that doesn't make sence!) I agree with the concepts behind the second one a bit more, but even still, a lot of things in the KOTOR games I disagree with, because they seem to not fit with the 6 movies. I did gather that Blue and green go along with classes, but it seems that KOTOR went a littlte overboard in creating colors like orange, silver, yellow, and even obscure shades of green and blue.
  JesusDrinksWindex
Lightsaber Color Symbolism
date Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:08 PM
Like I said, I agree with a lot of the history of the formation of the Sith and the different classes (not ranks) of Jedi determining their saber color, but I don't agree with the extra stuff because it simply does not fit.

I mean, sure, even in games and comics based on Ep 1 such as Jedi Power Battles, (which for the record, I love and STILL play) Adi Gallia and Plo Koon are sporting Crimson and Yellow respectively, and Mace has not a purple saber, but a blue one.
  JesusDrinksWindex
Lightsaber Color Symbolism
date Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:09 PM
I think most games and comics haven't been directly through Georgey Boy, the proverbal God of the Star Wars Universe, so they are not very reliable. It's cool having the freedom to pick your saber color, even obscure ones, but it hasn't been approved by GL, and therefor makes it no more credible than a licenced overpriced and usually badly rendered but still fun fanfic video game.
  JesusDrinksWindex
Lightsaber Color Symbolism
date Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:09 PM
One thing I did not know, is that the Sith artificially create their crystals. By this same logic, maybe new colors could be created, but now I'm just getting ahead of myself. Could Mace's have been such a crystal?

Another reason I did not mention colors other than blue and green is that in one of the later episodes in Clone Wars Volume 1 we see a giant crystal cave, and there are pretty much just green and blue. The Clone Wars series ties in well with the movies, so I trust that as a source.
  Rustar Landos
Chronicals of a Madman
date Posted: Aug 31, 2005 11:20 PM
the caves were Ilum, where the edi get their crystals nowadays(not Ossus, that was an awesome academy) The other colours came from the different worlds, where crystals no longer grow, or the caves themselves just arent there.
  obi jon kenobi8
date Posted: Sep 01, 2005 1:19 PM
that still doesn`t explain the sith.... some of them focus on the force, som of them focus on saber skills... for instance: count dooku wasn`t like other sith, he was calm all the time, but he was an excellent swordsman, but he was good with the force too....and that doesn`t explain ####. by the way, mace windu would have been the best swordsman with or without the purple lightsaber :D
  Sithlordmike90
The Sith Logs
date Posted: Sep 01, 2005 5:26 PM
I don't know if this was brought up yet but i believe that there was a girl on the council in ep. 1-2 who had a burgendy red-lightsaber. Im not sure if that is the truth but i believe it is, and i also think that they started to get the red crystals because they may have been in a easy place to access, such as if they were on the sith traing grounds and maybe for some reason not many other colors came from there. just an idea
  JesusDrinksWindex
Lightsaber Color Symbolism
date Posted: Sep 01, 2005 9:30 PM
Yeah, it was Adi-Galia that uses a red saber. I know her best from Jedi Power Battles for Playstation.

Her cousin is in Episode 3. I forget her name.
  Mr_E_2003
date Posted: Sep 02, 2005 11:13 AM
Samuel L. Jackson chose purple for his lightsaber b/c he wanted to be able to see himself in the battles.
  jetsvaoe
Execute order 66
date Posted: Sep 03, 2005 1:31 PM
In Knights of the old republic the colors depend on the job you take in the Jedi council.

Jedi Guardian-Blue
Sentinels - Yellow
Consular - Green

Hope it helped
CJ

  sith_eade
James Eade
date Posted: Sep 03, 2005 3:24 PM
yoda could not beat sidious in a lightsabre duel BS! you see how quick yoda is..sidious got lucky against yoda and i think colours is just a jedi's prefrence and most of them don't use red because red is usually associated with the sith
  obi jon kenobi8
date Posted: Sep 03, 2005 4:57 PM
I stand by sith_eade, with the yoda thing! yoda is definetly stronger than sidious
  Massa_Anakin
date Posted: Sep 03, 2005 6:24 PM
i find that this quiz really clears things up. You should take it. P.S. i got orange
http://quizilla.com/users/AfroBurdie/quizzes/What%20Colored%20Lightsaber%20Would%20You%20Have%3F/
  Darth_Visceral
date Posted: Sep 04, 2005 12:58 PM
I think the symbolism only applies to the films, as in the expanded universe you find all kinds of crazy colors associated with the light side and the darkside. However the only part of the symbolism I agree on is that since red is a symbol of violence and passion, it is a Sith color. As for all the detail you went into about the other colors, I'm not too sure about that. Good theories though.
  LtCmdrTurok
Star Wars, Star Trek... I prefer Babylon 5 most.
date Posted: Sep 04, 2005 3:39 PM
The fact of the matter is that if there is any symbolism in the lightsaber colors, it is only in the movies. A number of sources (including the Star Wars d20 system) seem to agree on the author's conclusions pertaining to the difference between the dispositions of blue- versus green-lightsaber toting Jedi. As was stated earlier, Mace Windu's lightsaber was purple because Samuel L. Jackson requested it.

George Lucas himself stated, pertaining to lightsaber colors, "Red is for the bad guys, and the good guys get blue or green." (or something to that effect).

In the EU, lightsabers are whatever color the Force-user fancies, or is random based on what crystals the Jedi could scrounge up.
  Darth Grapejuice
Grapejuice Holocron
date Posted: Sep 04, 2005 4:19 PM
I agree heartily with your theory, Mr. JesusDrinksWindex.
  Wilc4
date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 12:25 PM
In the book for Revenge of the Sith, it is mentioned that Mace Windu uses a particular fighting style that allows him to feed into a small portion of the dark side by allowing himself to enjoy the battle.

In a way this makes him sort of a semi-sith...I was thinking that blue and red make purple...hence the purple saber...
  jabagawee
date Posted: Oct 04, 2005 9:00 PM
I assume that all of you have heard of Vaapad (not sure of spelling).

It is when Mace Windu joins the dark side for a small amount of time to either see the future or use his rage in lightsaber combat. The red of the Sith and the blue of his ultimate lightsaber skills combine to make purple.
  sithlord013213
date Posted: Jun 20, 2006 7:01 PM
lightsaber color has nothing to do with any symbolism except the sith, and only because they believe in perfect, pure things so they make perfect pure crystals that generate a red blade. the color is all about what the builder likes and what can be found or used.
  darthkang
date Posted: Dec 09, 2006 7:23 PM
the jedi lightsaber is a elegant weapon..

not as clumsy or random as a blaster pistol

But a more civilised weapon for the more civilised age

don't u wish if u saw someone in trouble you could remove of your belt and ignite it and give your oponent a frown and say "back off... or prepare toleave this world"

the very humming of the light saber sets fear....
  darthkang
date Posted: Dec 09, 2006 7:23 PM
the jedi lightsaber is a elegant weapon..

not as clumsy or random as a blaster pistol

But a more civilised weapon for the more civilised age

don't u wish if u saw someone in trouble you could remove of your belt and ignite it and give your oponent a frown and say "back off... or prepare toleave this world"

the very humming of the light saber sets fear....
  Kalis Qal Doraan
date Posted: Mar 06, 2007 1:03 AM
The internal crystal determines the color of the lightsaber, not the allegiance of the user. When Anakin Skywalker succumbs to the dark side and still carries his Jedi blade, it still shines blue. Jedi who become Sith -- and it's not common, speaking on a galactic-scale -- traditionally take up a new lightsaber.

While Sith lightsabers don't necessarily have to be red, the artificial crystal lattice preferred by the Sith does not produce a red blade. Cinematically, George Lucas likes to keep his lightsaber colors clear, so you can count on any Sith lightsaber featured in the films being red. The Expanded Universe, though, has some leeway in depicting these colors, just as it does in the depiction of Jedi lightsaber hues.

Continued...
  Kalis Qal Doraan
date Posted: Mar 06, 2007 1:03 AM
While every Sith is different, the dark order prefers to synthetically grow their lightsaber crystals. The more holistic Jedi prefer the strong connection to the Force created by naturally-occuring crystals. The Sith instead forge their crystals in furnaces, focusing their rage to affect the growth of the crystals, creating weapons better suited to their dark designs.
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