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 Hello there...
I am sitting here reflecting on my day at work. It was a normal, average, steady day, the kinda day where you can sorta go on autopilot, and not worry too much about all of the little things. A nice day... a lovely day. A day that I often have, and am so happy to have at my job. And then that one thing came up... the one thing I hate. I'm not gonna go into detail about it here, because it doesn't really matter what it was... just the fact that "it" happened is enough. It was nothing serious, everything is AOK... but when "it" happens, it is truly so terribly annoying.
And it got me to thinking... about how we can find ourselves completely involved or immersed in something we like (or even love), only to come across that one thing that drives us up the wall. And yes, I know that HATE is such a strong word, but I started to compare this to Star Wars, something I love, and even though I really, really love it, and engage (how ST of me) myself in the world of SW often, there are things about it that make me cringe... things I hate. Like the SE Greedo/Han scene, Threepio's higher, more "chipper" voice in the PT, and alot of the EU stuff (Chewbacca dying, all of the fan-generated canon/continuity brawls) that really switches me off.
I know I'm not alone here, and I know that we all obviously love Star Wars, but what about it (if anything) makes you go crazy? Causes you to seethe like a Sith filled with hate?
Or, simply makes you want to pull your hair out?
Listen here, Star Wars... you know I love ya. Heck, I might even die for ya.
But... sometimes you can really be a scruffy-lookin' nerfherder!!
And quit leaving the toothpaste on the sink!
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Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
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date Posted: Sep 14, 2007 9:27 PM
The Han/Greedo scene. I could rant about it for days on end. And the overuse of CGI. I'm a stop-motion afficianado, alotta the movies I make are in stop-motion, and I think it can be one of the best special effects EVER. But when I see it being thrown aside for cheap, overused CGI that doesn't ever look real no matter how hard you work on it... It drives me crazy.
Replacing good stop-motion effects with cheap CGI is like leaving the toilet seat up. You just don't do it.
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 1:41 AM
Han stepping on Jabba's tail.
Obi-Wan's two fingered battle stance in ROTS.
Episode 1 puppet Yoda.
Vader's SE line "Alert my Star Destroyer..."
3PO's antics on Geonosis.
Any line uttered by Hayden (although he's got good abs, girls, before you start).
Palpatine's saber skills and silly faces as he duels Mace.
Jar Jar's somersault into the lake.
The fact that you don't see any hyperspace lines in the prequels.
I could go on, but it would waste space. However, I'd like to add that the things that make me happy about the films outweighs the things that I hate, by a huge margin.
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Merryman-Lyon
A Wild Bantha Chase
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 4:39 AM
One of the things that always bugs me are most of the lines said during the first 30 minutes of Episode III. They make me cringe.
I also dislike how little music is used in those first 30 minutes. Most of the Count Dooku duel has no music!
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~Annakin24601~
A Certain Point of View
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:23 AM
Jar-Jar Binks.
The fact that, mysteriously, as soon as Vader's in that big black suit, he can act, and very well at that, when he so couldn't before.
All of Padme's hair issues.
Self-important prequel cameos.
Characters unnecessarily CGI'd.
Seeing Boba Fett without his helmet.
Though, yeah. I still love it. It made it into the box of stuff I'm not shipping to college next week. It's in the box I'm carrying with me. So there is great love.
It's just human...
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MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:39 AM
Star Wars... you know I love ya. Heck, I might even die for ya. LOL!  For me, it was the opposite, SW gave me a reason to really live again.
Gee, I dunno. To me it's all good. Even Jar-Jar. I think he gets a bad rap. Had Jar-Jar been "cast" for the part of Yoda, we would all be consulting a Gungan's wisdom. Think about it - that little, green, wrinkled, hobbling...thing...a Jedi Master? Talk about your oxymorons!  " Don't judge a species by it's Gungan..." or something like that 
Any line uttered by Hayden (although he's got good abs, girls, before you start). Oh now, come on...Da Maker is a genius-he chose Hayden for a reason...and it wasn't necessarily his abs...'nuff said
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darthgrievious93
Hey, Ho, Let's Go!
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 8:58 AM
When young Ani is in the Naboo Starfighter in TPM.
They shouldn't ever have him talk. 
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Green Am I
Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 9:38 AM
Hmm, I have my own list of Star Wars irritations...
-The altered Jedi Spirits scene at the end of RotJ
-R2's need to scream and beep "uh-oh" constantly in RotS
-Yoda Vs. Palpatine
-TPM's "wacky CG characters"
-"I don't like sand..."
-When Legolas roars "SCOUT!" (Whoops, that's Lord of the RIngs)
-The "Jedi Rocks" scene (worst of them all)
I won't mention the ones that others have already posted, most of which I agree with, especially 3PO's Geonosis moments and puppet Yoda. But insult Obi-Wan's awesome battle stance and you insult all that I stand for.
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ketal13
HanAnWan
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 10:21 AM
Any line uttered by Hayden
WHAT!!??  he's got good abs, *sigh* Yeah. Now, what, what was I going to say...
Oh! Yeah...
It is unfortunate, but I have to agree wholeheartedly with what Merry-Man said. (I'm sorry Anakin ! I still LOVE you!)  Another scene with my sweetie that I dislike very much---the scene where he is riding the shaak after the picnic--it looks so phony--hate I do!
Meesa not done yet! (HAAAATTTTTEEEEE Jar, Jar!!!!)
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ketal13
HanAnWan
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 10:24 AM
Continuing on with my girly theme...if George wanted to tell a love story in EPII, then he needed to tell it from a more mature perspective--as painful as it is to say, it was like a 14 year old had written the entire thing. (Sorry George!!! And my apologies to any 14 year olds that may be reading this )
Ah. Thanks for letting me vent Sarlacc. I LOVE this entry... unconditionally . 
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RC-6035 "Nova"
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 1:24 PM
it was like a 14 year old had written the entire thing
  WaaaAAAHhhhh!
But yeah, the whole AotC romance was pretty inane.
as soon as Vader's in that big black suit, he can act
LOL.
My own pet peeve from the GFFA:
Jacen Solo. I will say no more.
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masterkenobi93
confessions of a teenage star wars fan
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 2:56 PM
the thing that annoys me the most is that they kill off all the classic characters! I mean how could you kill off Chewie!!!! It is simply unheard of! Those canon/non-canon things bug me too.
MTFBWYA
MK93
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anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:08 PM
Wow! I could hardly think of a single thing at first and then I read all the comments and well..... There are several areas that could have used improvement. Most I have reconciled with......even Jar Jar, because I respect what they were trying to do, even if they couldn't quite do it. Even the lines in the romance don't bug me too much because the psychological motivation behind them, and therefore the way it all comes crashing down really resonates. If I had to pick one thing it's Han saying to Jabba "You're a wonderful human being." 'cause I'm always like, but Jabba's not human and that just bugs nine Corellian hells out of me.
MTFBWY
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anakinside1
Echoes from the Asteroid Field
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:14 PM
Vader's SE line "Alert my Star Destroyer..."
You know I've never understood why this change bothers people. I'm not debating whether it should or shouldn't (whatever bakes your muffins is fine with me), but if someone could explain to me why people don't like that line I'd just love to be informed. Thanks
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:18 PM
as soon as Vader's in that big black suit, he can act
Sorry to halt you in your tracks, but Vader's a character, not an actor. Hayden may be able to act in the Vader suit, but Vader don't act.
Which brings me to this question, and I'm amazed that I don't know the answer, nor can I be bothered to hit a search engine to find the answer:
Who did the voice of Vader in ROTS?
JE Jones? Hayden? Or just some random with a voice changer?
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:23 PM
Self-important prequel cameos
I hear you on that.
It made it into the box of stuff I'm not shipping to college next week.
If that were me, I'd just pack the OT, ebay the PT.
Da Maker is a genius-he chose Hayden for a reason...
First off, if you're referring to George Lucas as Da Maker, then you're delusional. He's a film maker, director, rich mofo. He may have once been a genius, but that was my opinion back in the 80s. Anything he's touched since 1983 puts him in the category of "Da Useless"
In my humble opinion. Secondly, his reasons for choosing Hayden are fraught with hallucinogens.
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:28 PM
it looks so phony
That's your only phony scene?
They shouldn't ever have him talk.
Despite my hatred of Hayden, I applaud jake Lloyd. I think I'm the only Lloyd/Anakin fan. Of course, I'd have preferred it if Da Useless had written Anakin older, but I quite like Lloyd's scenes and his abilitiy to act.
Jacen Solo
Meh, I can tolerate him. Haven't read Inferno yet, but then, he aint Jacen anymore in that is he?
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Rogueish
W.I.E.R.D.
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:33 PM
I mean how could you kill off Chewie!!!!
Come now, don't cry. Killing off Chewie, however much I love him, was a stroke of genius. Looking back, I wish he'd have been killed off in the movies. Perhaps if George had filmed today, he may have. Imagine if the 24 makers had made Star Wars - no one is safe!
but if someone could explain to me why people don't like that line I'd just love to be informed.
Two reasons:
1. There was nothing wrong with the original line "Bring my shuttle". Simple. To the point. And obeyed.
2. It sounds nothing like Vader.
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MomOf2YoungPadawan
Mamadala's Lair
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 3:50 PM
Gee, Rogueish...who pooped in your Cheerios this morning??
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Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:18 PM
Y'know, as much as I bash CGI, I'm gonna give it some credit: Jar Jar did look pretty good. I could tell he's CGI, but they put enough work into it that I could believe it.
Though, Jabba would still look better as a stop-motion puppet and I think my dog just vomited...
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Master Jedi Michael
ANBU File 1262- Master Jedi Michael
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:31 PM
And my apologies to any 14 year olds that may be reading this)
Heh, I'm 15, so it's all good.
"Don't judge a species by it's Gungan..." or something like that
Or, perhaps, don't judge a species by it's main reperesentation in a movie. Anyway, there isn't much that annoy's me about Star Wars. I hate it when people insist that the altered Jedi Spirits scene is horrible. That's my favorite moment in the entire saga, when you see young Anakin come back. It would take a whole blog for me to explain why. One thing I do hate though is in the Battlefront 2 video game, and that is how easily overpowerd Anakin is by Aayla Secure in Hero mode. And General Grievous' attack consistency in the ROTS game.
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greenandwhitejedi
Bar 66
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:33 PM
The insertion of the Han/Jabba scene in ANH strikes me as one of the most bizzare decisions of the re-release. I don't know why they felt the need to establish Jabba as a character at that point, when the Emperor - a driving force of the whole Saga - barely even gets a mention in that film, let alone screen time. Then there's the Chewie continuity goof, the tail stepping, the referring to Jabba as a "human being" ("Ha ha ha! Irony!" No.), and the insertion of Boba Fett. Silly.
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greenandwhitejedi
Bar 66
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:33 PM
Who did the voice of Vader in ROTS?
Jonesy. If I heard right, he specifically requested to not be credited.
There was nothing wrong with the original line "Bring my shuttle".
The issue with that line is that Vader says it as he is walking out the door to the landing platform, where his shuttle is already waiting (that's the way it looks in the edit, anyway). So, either Vader looks like a doofus, or the audience thinks, "#### me, that shuttle's quick!".
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Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 5:40 PM
Or, perhaps, don't judge a species by it's main reperesentation in a movie.
"Greedo was a bounty hunter so all Rodians are bounty-hunting violent psychos who smell funny!"
How could I forget to mention that?! That's one thing that bugs me to no end- blanket statements!
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Green Am I
Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 6:09 PM
Y'know, as much as I bash CGI, I'm gonna give it some credit: Jar Jar did look pretty good. I could tell he's CGI, but they put enough work into it that I could believe it.
I'm no Jar-Jar fan, but that gungan turned out quite realistic for being a flop-eared, slap-stick frog man.
I hate it when people insist that the altered Jedi Spirits scene is horrible. That's my favorite moment in the entire saga, when you see young Anakin come back. It would take a whole blog for me to explain why.
You really should write an entry about that. I'm sure it's been done before, but I know I'd comment... it would be interesting to discuss.
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Green Am I
Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 6:09 PM
"Greedo was a bounty hunter so all Rodians are bounty-hunting violent psychos who smell funny!"
Isn't that true? Oh, but no offense to the Ramblin' Rodian... I just mean in general.
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leia19886
Some One get this big walking carpet out of my way
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 6:38 PM
I would like to say the think that bugs me about Star Wars is ATOTC.
Anakin's behavior. I know he was supposed to be 19, but still he came accross a 13.
YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My sister doesn't like the younger Anakin at the end of ROTJ. She said if your going to do
that, then all the jedi we saw die in ROTS as a result of Order 66 should be standing
there also.
just my opinion
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SithLord, Darth Chris
Journey through the Expanded Universe
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 7:24 PM
Anakin Skywalker, himself. In the movies and the EU. He comes off as unnecessarily whiny, cocky and incompetent of following instruction like he does in the OT. In the originals he does whatever he is told to do, wether it be Tarkin or Palpatine. In the PT, he does whatever the heck he wants, disregarding whatever Yoda or Obi-Wan says.
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Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 7:46 PM
Isn't that true? Oh, but no offense to the Ramblin' Rodian... I just mean in general.
Unfortunatly, it is, and it spurned my ranty topic about it. Using one example to describe an entire race just seems ridiculous to me. And lazy.
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jediprincess77
I Know...
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 8:07 PM
Wow, it seems just about everything that bugs me has already been covered.
One straaaange thing that drives me nuts is what Luke says in ESB right after R2 gets spit out of that creature on Dagobah. In the original, Luke says, "You're lucky you don't taste very good." In the SE, he says, "You were lucky to get out of there."
What the Kessel??? That's such a silly thing to change! (And I liked the original line...  )
You really started something with this blog, Mr. Pitt! But of course, despite all these issues we have with the Saga, we all still love it. Even the parts that drive me nuts I love, because they are part of the Saga...and without all its parts, it wouldn't be Star Wars.
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Green Am I
Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 8:14 PM
Unfortunatly, it is, and it spurned my ranty topic about it. Using one example to describe an entire race just seems ridiculous to me. And lazy.
You're right about that... the saga's key characters for aliens really have stereotyped their various races. As I played through Knights of the Old Republic, I began to anticipate the personalities of the Rodians I ran across. They were almost all morons and wanted nothing more than to shoot random people, especially my character. While there's no denying that I found many of these encounters funny, I can see your point.
New Star Wars pet peeve! Rodian stereotyping! Individuality to the Rodians! (I think I've reached a new level of strangeness.)
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Trak Nar
The Ramblin' Rodian
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 8:18 PM
Looks like a new blog/forum topic: "Give Rodians Their Individuality!" Or would that be more of some weird civil rights parade...?
...I am so gonna draw that. >>;
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jkthunder
Seven Pieces
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 9:00 PM
You know, if Star Wars would just STOP slamming the doors, I would be less jumpy. And it just leaves a mess wherever it goes. I swear I mopped up after it 3 times this week alone.
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zach starwalker
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 9:20 PM
my pet peve is not jar jar. i dont know why
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Green Am I
Mudhole? Slimy?! My blog this is!
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 9:35 PM
Looks like a new blog/forum topic: "Give Rodians Their Individuality!" Or would that be more of some weird civil rights parade...?
...I am so gonna draw that. >>;
You definitely should do that.
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Darth_Hiram
A Journey into The Force
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date Posted: Sep 15, 2007 11:17 PM
I agree with jk ... I'm getting a headache from the door slamming. And don't get me started on the cabbage before bed deal. That and it makes it talk in its sleep ...
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bobthebeatle66
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 6:26 AM
My pet peve is that da maker made AOTC. It is the worst episode ever. Argggggggggggggghhhhhhh.
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ketal13
HanAnWan
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 7:45 AM
Holy salvo Sarlacc!!!! That quite a can of Sarlaacian worms you've opened up!
Perhaps your next blog should be the things we LOVE about Star Wars!
I did enjoy your blog btw...
Catch cha' later.
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:19 AM
Yowza!
Guess I'm not the only one who gets a little peeved!
Replacing good stop-motion effects with cheap CGI is like leaving the toilet seat up. You just don't do it.
I think there is definitely a time and place for well-thought out, well placed CGI. As long as it is serving the story and fulfilling the storytellers wishes, it's fine with me. Oh, and as long as it also pleases a billion Star Wars fans, too. Thanks for your comments, Trak Nar!
I could go on, but it would waste space.
Never!
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JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:21 AM
The thing that really bugs me the most is Luke's hair in ROTJ. He is much too handsome to have such a bad hairstyle....
Oh, and SW makes me spend too much money. Yep, spending money and Luke's hair.... my pet peeves......
::::well, I suppose the money thing is my fault, but still.......SW makes me do it!:::: ![]:)](http://blogs.starwars.com/share/img/emoticons/devil.gif)
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:27 AM
However, I'd like to add that the things that make me happy about the films outweighs the things that I hate, by a huge margin.
I agree with pretty much everything on your list, Rogueish, and I especially agree with this last sentence! I love Star Wars! No, really, I do! Very huge margin for me as well.
Thanks for stoppin' by, M-L!
Though, yeah. I still love it. It made it into the box of stuff I'm not shipping to college next week. It's in the box I'm carrying with me. So there is great love.
Well put. And enjoy college!
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:35 AM
Even Jar-Jar. I think he gets a bad rap. Had Jar-Jar been "cast" for the part of Yoda, we would all be consulting a Gungan's wisdom.
Ya know, when I first saw TPM, he.... didn't really bother me! Everyone I knew was like "Good Lord, you will not believe the comic relief in this movie!" But then later on he DID really start to get on my nerves. Now, I've come to terms with him... and... we.. shall.. have... peace... Thanks, Mom!
They shouldn't ever have him talk.
Ha!
But insult Obi-Wan's awesome battle stance and you insult all that I stand for.
"It's treason then." Holy crap, look out!
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:43 AM
-The "Jedi Rocks" scene (worst of them all)
That... could be an entire 'nother blog!
Thanks for commenting, Green Am I!
Meesa not done yet! (HAAAATTTTTEEEEE Jar, Jar!!!!)
Uh oh! *pours a couple margaritas*
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:44 AM
if George wanted to tell a love story in EPII, then he needed to tell it from a more mature perspective--as painful as it is to say, it was like a 14 year old had written the entire thing. (Sorry George!!!
*hides ketal13 behind the shield generator bunker*
Kidding! I agree, and I think the romance went *way* to fast. I mean, at the beginning they see each other after 10 years for the first time, she doesn't really dig him, and then at the end of the movie they're married! But I guess if you only have a few hours to tell a story, ya gotta do what gotta do! Thanks for the comments, ket!
Ah. Thanks for letting me vent Sarlacc. I LOVE this entry...unconditionally .
You're welcome, ket! And awww, thanks!
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:52 AM
But yeah, the whole AotC romance was pretty inane.
Yep!
I mean how could you kill off Chewie!!!! It is simply unheard of!
I know! Bleh!
Those canon/non-canon things bug me too.
Seriously!
Gee, Rogueish...who pooped in your Cheerios this morning??
Though, Jabba would still look better as a stop-motion puppet and I think my dog just vomited...
I agree, and yuck!
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 9:58 AM
I hate it when people insist that the altered Jedi Spirits scene is horrible. That's my favorite moment in the entire saga, when you see young Anakin come back. It would take a whole blog for me to explain why.
I really like it too. And do blog about it! Please! There were only 3 freakin' posts yesterday!"
greenandwhitejedi, I agree with everything you wrote in both of your comments! Thanks!
Anakin's behavior. I know he was supposed to be 19, but still he came accross a 13.
For sure!
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JediPug1
Like My Father Before Me
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 10:04 AM
I hate it when people insist that the altered Jedi Spirits scene is horrible. That's my favorite moment in the entire saga, when you see young Anakin come back. It would take a whole blog for me to explain why.
I really like it too. And do blog about it! Please! There were only 3 freakin' posts yesterday!"
I love the addition of young Anakin to that scene, too. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense to have him there. It was young Anakin that was lost to the light side of the Force, so it is fitting that after he's redeemed the light side brings back Anakin at the point when he was lost. Am I making sense??? 
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 10:22 AM
You really started something with this blog, Mr. Pitt!
Hee hee!
But of course, despite all these issues we have with the Saga, ...and without all its parts, it wouldn't be Star Wars.
Here here! I couldn't agree more, thanks for checkin' out the rodeo, JP! (?!)
(sorry I had to delete your other comment.)  It was cute, tho!
jkthunder and Darth_Hiram are total brats!
*gives free action figures to JP and Pug for deleting their comments*
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Sarlacc-Pitt
Slowly Digested Over A Thousand Blogs
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date Posted: Sep 16, 2007 10:28 AM
::::well, I suppose the money thing is my fault, but still.......SW makes me do it!::::
*waves hand* You will stop blaming SW for spending all your money... (I sooo need to do that to myself, LOL!) And Luke's hair in Jedi doesn't really bother me! Maybe it's a guy thing... Thanks for your comments, Pug! (and sorry I had to delete that one, too)
my pet peve is not jar jar. i dont know why
Mysterious...
I get ya, on so many levels.
Glad ya liked it, Shel!
Hey all, thanks so much for your input... total coolness! Since this space in now full, feel free to use the comment space on my last entry if you wanna add anything else. Really!
Love ya!
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