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Slowly Turning To The Dark Side!
date posted: May 12, 2006 6:45 AM  |  updated: May 28, 2006 6:12 PM
Redemption

Wotcha Listeners!

You may have noticed that I've not really been around here and Blogging as much as Usual..

reader ~ Not really, I don't care, get on with it!

Okay, the reason is that a friend directed me to this site Here.

Now there's a bit of Navigation to be done so listen up kids!
Skip Intro (You don't need it)
Hover the cursor over Programme Sales and go down to Sci-Fi/Imagination then across to Ice Planet and 'click'

It's called Ice Planet and they are, if all goes well, making 5 series of 22 episodes.. Yaay!!

A few of us thought it looked fantastic so jokingly a friend said that we should create a Fan-site for it (How we laughed!) anyway the site should be operational soon and that can be found
here

Sorry It's just a Page Holder at the moment but I'll get back to you when it's up and running, It's looking pretty damn good at the moment, even if I do say so myself. So watch this space!

Now for the Star Wars bit..

When Vader is watching Sidious fry Luke, at the end of ROTJ,

I think this takes Vader back to that fateful night on Coruscant when Anakin helped Sidious against Mace. This one memory starts a chain reaction in Vader's mind of all the times that Sidious lied and manipulated him in way's he is only starting to fathom,that's when he starts to put 2 and 2 together and realises that the answer isn't 22!

The Immortality that Palpatine spoke of seems to be an eternity from fruition, The power that he was promised seems as far away as when he was told that he wouldn't be granted the rank of Jedi Master, Now the one person he actually thought that he could trust (through respect, not fear) has pitted a younger fitter warrior in a fight to death against him for a place at his side. And to make matters worse this young warrior is Vader's son.

That's when he realises.. BAM!
Sidious said that Padme died by Vader's hand, but she couldn't have if she was to give birth to twins, All those years of regret and remorse for killing the one person he truly loved implicitly were simply a tool for Sidious to get the worst out Vader.

Now Sidious was trying to destroy the fruit of his all too brief relationship with his beloved wife, and that was when Anakin realised that Sidious had gone too far. In one fell swoop he managed to kill Sidious and Vader so saving Luke and the Empire from the Tyrannical rule that had engulfed the Galaxy. But more poignantly he saved himself and Padme's Legacy.




hansgirl3
Invoking the Squee
date Posted: May 12, 2006 6:55 AM
Pickles, well done!!! :)

That's a lot to have gone through his mind while Luke was "getting fried", but you're probably correct. It makes sense for Vader to make the connection back to Mace since the same type of scenario is happening with the force lightning and everything.

Great connection!
  Jedi Arwen Skywalker
date Posted: May 12, 2006 7:16 AM
We've had some really good blogs on the padme/vader thing lately, havn't we? THis one joins their ranks and deserves the title. Liked it.
The Stooge
Star Wars Joke-A-Day
date Posted: May 12, 2006 7:26 AM
That's when he realises.. BAM!
Sidious said that Padme died by Vader's hand, but she couldn't have if she was to give birth to twins


Never thought of that before! Very neat way of explaining why Vader turned on Palpy, even going as far back as ESB -- and it's all derived straight from the movies, to boot!

Coolness! Good luck with the other site, too.
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: May 12, 2006 7:41 AM
Do you think that Anakin's realization was that sudden, JPM, or that was just the turning point? Great thoughts.

I'm not much of a TV-watcher (except for sports), but I'll keep and eye on that site!
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: May 12, 2006 7:42 AM
I saw just as I hit "submit"...jMP not JPM...eeek! Sorry....
viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
date Posted: May 12, 2006 7:48 AM
I agree! Vader's memory of the past was definitely jogged at that moment. He was no longer numb and was able to feel emotions once again. Allowing those emotions
to fuel him once more, becoming Anakin and fullfilling his destiny.
Just think how ticked off he had to be realizing that Padme' hadn't died before the
babies were born! All those years doing the bidding for someone who fed you lie
after lie. Worse, making Vader believe that he himself destroyed his very own dreams
of love and happiness. Then seeing his own son doing what he never could, completely giving oneself to the FORCE and trusting that all would be set right. Go Luke!
GREAT BLOG!:D
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: May 12, 2006 8:05 AM
I just thought of something else...Anakin's memory had to be jogged in ESB at the latest...whenever he realized who Luke was. So then Sidious says, "Search your feelings, Lord Vader...." WHY the heck would Sids say that to Anakin/DV??? Obviously to search his feelings would be to realize that Sids had lied to him. What purpose could "searching (his) feelings" serve?
  JediMasterPickles
Slowly Turning To The Dark Side!
date Posted: May 12, 2006 9:34 AM
Pickles, well done!!!
THis one joins their ranks and deserves the title. Liked it.
Coolness! Good luck with the other site, too.


Thanks very much. :D

That's a lot to have gone through his mind while Luke was "getting fried"

That's exactly my point, One thought cascading on to another until he finally had clarity.B-)

  jediholteh
date Posted: May 12, 2006 9:41 AM
Darth Vader/Anakin has always had emotions.. and a lot of 'em. It's just that seeing his son, a now-powerful Jedi Knight, stirred a whole new feeling for him. He may have even felt proud of him. Of course, he couldn't let this show on his exterior, not until his son lay on the fence between life and death. I really do think that it does take Vader aback to the day of his first betrayal: he and Mace. I think he starts to think in terms of "Palpatine did this to me.. to my wife.. to my family.. to my future." It wakes him up and he realizes that he has to make it right.

Good blog, JMP. :D
  JediMasterPickles
Slowly Turning To The Dark Side!
date Posted: May 12, 2006 9:44 AM
Do you think that Anakin's realization was that sudden, JPM, or that was just the turning point?

I think his first major doubts came on the bridge on Endor, which is one of my favourite scenes, Vader tries to turn Luke to the dark side, Luke say's no and walks away but the shot stays on Vader. And you can see everything, even though there's nothing there. You can see the beginnings of him coming back.
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: May 12, 2006 12:37 PM
but the shot stays on Vader. And you can see everything, even though there's nothing there. You can see the beginnings of him coming back.

I love that part...
  padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: May 12, 2006 2:45 PM
Great blog JMP!! And a GREAT addition to the Vader/Anakin redemption blogs;)
You make a compelling argument for Anakin's "return" from the Dark Side occurring during the scene where Sidious is throwing lightning at Luke. However, his feelings, IMO, start to change in ESB when he realizes that Luke is his son. He begins to realize that he has been lied to all of these years. (Cont)

  padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
date Posted: May 12, 2006 2:45 PM
The scene on the bridge on Endor is another turning point...I, too can see Anakin begin to "resurface" as Luke is taken by the stormtroopers. The culmination of these feelings occurs when he is witnessing the "execution" of his son by the man he had once considered his mentor. He couldn't take the lies anymore, and Anakin effectively destroyed Vader, Sidious, and, ultimately, the Sith.
jkthunder
Seven Pieces
date Posted: May 12, 2006 3:22 PM
Ice Planet... YEAH! I'm all about it.... that guy even looked sort of like a Vulcan. Page looks great so far too. Working on the Flash version are ya? ;)

Love that lightening parallel between ROTJ and ROTS. That dozy old bint Palpatine pushed his luck a little too far there in the end, yesiree.
ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
date Posted: May 13, 2006 3:19 PM
Great blog!
I read in some EU source (can't recall which one...maybe the New Essential Chronology) that Vader found out that Luke was his son in between ANH and ESB (I don't remember exactly how he found out). Now I'm wondering, what did Vader think happened to Padme? Did he know she was dead? Even though Sidious said she was, Vader knew that he lied.

ewanandhaydenfan5
I Have You Now!
date Posted: May 13, 2006 3:19 PM
(cont'd)
JMP, I like your theory on what Vader was thinking when Luke was getting fried...I never thought of it that way. I like to think that Vader was thinking of Padme...that this was THEIR son dying right in front of him. Vader had already lost 2 people he loved, and he always felt guilty that he couldn't save them. Here was his chance to do something to save his own son...and he chose to save him, at the sacrifice of his safety and life.
amidalooine
The Emotional Galaxy
date Posted: May 13, 2006 8:35 PM
That dozy old bint Palpatine

Excellent usage, jk!!!!
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