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 | Was Padme' A Hypocrite? |
 It occurred to me the other day, while I was watching Episode II again, that Padme' didn't seem to be all that consistent when it came to her ideals. Hear me out on this one...
OK, in Episode I, we learn that she's from this little planet called Naboo. Not much happens there, and the population lives a decent life. Padme', however, had so many luxurious outfits to wear! Jeez, even the outfit she picked to wear to get arrested by the Trade Federation had lights in the skirt! Oh yeah, and she (probably, no visual proof was provided) had duplicates of everything made up for her handmaidens, in case she needed a quick decoy. And don't get me started on the headgear. Jeez, look at that thing she wore to address the Galactic Senate about the invasion of Naboo! Can you say "extravagant"? Granted, she was the Queen at the time, but come on!
OK, Episode II. This was an over-the-top tour-de-force from Padme's wardrobe selection committee. I was not happy with her choice of outfits when she and Anakin reached the Lake Country. OMG! If she was so sure that any relationship with Anakin would be trouble, why did she, oh, wear the MOST PROVOCATIVE OUTFITS SINCE THE METAL SLAVE BIKINI?!?!?! Then there were the scenes on Tatooine. Padme' tries to be humble in front of the Lars by wearing another luxurious, partially revealing outfit. Hardly the garb of a simple woman in the desert...
Episode III was even more outrageous. Padme' had more clothing layers than you could shake a lightsaber sat, ostensibly to cover her (snicker) growing belly. But, holy moly, every layer of every outfit was probably made of light-yet-comforting fabrics that were probably hand-woven by semi-intelligent silk-bugs on some far-flung planet. She nearly redeemed herself when she traveled to Mustafar. Although that gawd-awful little gray jumpsuit did nothing for her figure, pregnant or not, it was perhaps the most down-to-earth thing she ever wore. (The Geonosis outfit doesn't count... look at how easily the ENTIRE MIDRIFF tore away with one little swipe of a nexu's paw. I can see a couple of rips, but the entire lower half of the top came off! )
So, was Padme' a hypocrite? She spent most of her career championing the plight of the down-trodden, fighting against the greed and corruption in the Senate, but managed to flaunt her wealth and position nearly every scene she's in. Seems to me that she was...
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greenandwhitejedi
Bar 66
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 9:53 AM
I think you can see the cable running to the supply that powered the first dress we see her wearing in TPM. It's to her left, on the floor against the wall.
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viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 9:54 AM
OUCH! Just a little harsh, don't you think?  OK, As G.L. explained this himself in an interview about the dress code in the PT verses the OT. The OT was ruled by the Empire, which as GL says had a black, grey and white feel to it. No one was suppose to *stand out* persay with their styles in wardrobe, kind a like having a uniform for a private school or something. In the PT mainly governed by the REPUBLIC all politicians dressed in elaborate colors and fabrics (GEEZ look at Bail, HOTTIE). So as to Padme *style* that's exactly what it was, Fashion. As to her choice in outfits, it states in the novel of AOTC that she never really gave it much thought (looking seductive). CONT.
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viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 9:58 AM
Also, she had been only with men in situations concerning Diplomacy and Politics.
There was never any interest *personally* in her until Anakin arrived. She even says in the novel before the *FIREPLACE* scene, That she should have chosen a different gown that night. So, in a sense her self awareness didn't really surface until after that KISS on the balcony. Besides, Anakin wasn't complaining about it. Would you, if you were him?  VA2
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viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:09 AM
OH! Jus one more *TID BIT* of novel info for ya. Anakin says, he likes her dressed in *simple dresses*. For all the elaborate details and Fabrics just take away from her natural *BEAUTY* . Where when dressed in simple fashion it's the *ONLY* accessory needed. WHAT A GUY! 
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jediholteh
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:11 AM
Just because parts of America is in destitution, does our President have to dress like them? Chances are some families on Naboo were more wealthy than others. Some could afford nice things, some can't. Heck, if I could afford to look nice, I'd do it.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:31 AM
I know! Forget clothes, it just makes things so much more complex. I say we all vote for a remake of the PT, except have everyone in the nude!
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jediholteh
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:35 AM
I say we all vote for a remake of the PT, except have everyone in the nude!
Sweet. We'll get the same actor for Anakin, right?? 
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:56 AM
Keep in mind, that means everyone in the nude. The people you like...and the people you don't like. So the question is; is it work seeing Anakin naked in exchange for having to see Palpatine with nothin on?
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 10:58 AM
I would Love to see *IT*!!!
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I had something to say, but I changed my mind in an attempt to remain PG(ish).
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Lord Teal
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 11:08 AM
if this is the case padme must be in every sceen.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 11:15 AM
get to know me, I dare you check out my stories
Holy freakin'....
That's...
Can you...!?!?!
What....I...but....
Nevermind.
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Input Name
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 12:06 PM
How did you come up with that stuff???
The warmth of her brain-meats. Where else? And if you think those are bad, you should try The Smoke Theif By Shanna Abe.
Anyways, back to the blog. Her clothing is just a demonstration of her wealth and status. Even the kindest of rulers had some demostration of their power and station in society, most in jewels and fancy clothes. It shows that they can afford these things and there for command respect. It is so they can be distinguished and given proper treatment fitting to their social status. It's normal.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 12:08 PM
And if you think those are bad
When did I say they were 'bad'? Although the subject matter is PG-13(ish), it's actually good writing.
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padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 12:23 PM
I really can't add any more to what VA2 has said. I also heard GL's explanation for the costuming of the PT versus the OT, and it's just as VA2 explained it. The PT era was a period of excess...especially with the politicians. Before Anakin came back into her life, Padme' really had no reason to question her choice of clothing...and then he "opened her eyes" to the possibility that someone may be interested in her more than as a politician, and she became a little more aware of what she wore. No...Padme' was no hypocrite. She was a product of her time.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 12:44 PM
just leave Orn Free Taa out of it.
Hey, like I said- if we want a nude remake, we gotta do the movie in it's entirety. The good, the bad, and the ugly. That's why I say; is it really worth it to see Padme nude in the same scene with Palpy in his wrinkly old birthday suit? Or Yoda?? I don't think sooo....
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viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 12:52 PM
HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS STUFF?
How? I love *romance* to say the least. Check out my latest Entry it's titled
" YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME! " I would love to hear your thoughts jedivnsator.
By the way, Thanks for the *DEFENSE* I appreciate what you said.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 12:59 PM
No problem. I need to cool my Chi for a few moments before I move on to your next piece of work- I'm only 16, after all.
Raging horomones and all that...
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jedilily1026
Years Matter Not (Gone Crazy...Be Back Soon)
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 3:44 PM
I wrote a blog about Padme's seductive clothing in AOTC at the end of May and how I thought she dressed to tease & eventually make Anakin fall for her. But VA2's comments on my blog got me reading the novel AOTC and now I've changed my mind. She seems innocent enough in as she had no experience with men other than Diplomats or Senators. PALPY NUDE NOOOOOOOOOO.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 21, 2006 6:13 PM
PALPY NUDE NOOOOOOOOOO.
It's the price we pay to see certain 'other' people in Star Wars bare all. I really think the ugly outweighs the beautiful, though. Whatta ya say we just scratch the nude remake...
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Bubba1227
Ramblings of a Completely Unofficial IA Engineer
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:36 AM
Wow, this blog got sidetracked quickly!  Anyhoo, as to Jediholteh's comment... I agree, to a degree. The President is usually seen in a nice suit and tie, whether he's visiting the average joe or at a political meeting. But that's my point... the President is presenting a respectfully dressed image. Padme' never really got respectable unless it was time for action (Geonosis arena, Mustafar trip). And notice that these times were almost always "private." The only times she dressed "more normal" was when she was out of the spotlight. Granted, this makes a bit of sense, because I wouldn't want to fight a nexu with 30 pounds of regalia in my hair... (cont)
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Bubba1227
Ramblings of a Completely Unofficial IA Engineer
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:40 AM
(cont) However, her public image was almost always the "exhorbitantly wealthy and not afraid to flaunt it" Queen/Senator. As for the GL explanation of the PT dresscode, I understand the difference, but it's sorta like retconning a bad situation. If Padme' had really been worried about the state of the galaxy, as many part of the story lead us to believe, she could have eschewed the extravagant dresses (whether she chose them or not, she had the option of not wearing them) and gone with something a little more austere. (cont)
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Bubba1227
Ramblings of a Completely Unofficial IA Engineer
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:47 AM
(cont) And, yes, I DO read all the novels (and comics, and magazines, and online content), so I'm aware of Padme's internal struggle with her relationship to Anakin. It just seems wierd that a very public political figure, who was living in an era that was supposedly so openly corrupt and bachanalian, wasn't aware of what was going on around her, or how her choice of dress would affect the people she came into contact with.
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jedivnsnator
The Trash Compactor
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 9:31 AM
I do agree on the last statement there- seriously, how naieve can you get? That dress on Naboo looked like it was going to fall off if she sneezed, and yet she couldn't see the effect it was having on Anakin?? Hellloooo....
Then again, I still disagree with your view that her dress reflected her viewpoint. You have to also pay attention to everything that was around her- most of the senators of her time were wearing similarly extravagant clothing (look at the Baron Papanoida!) and, to not fit the dresscode of her senatorial peers would have been worse than wearing overly-complex hairdos, in that in a subtle way she would have lost some respect and dignity.
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padmeskywalker77
Padme's Legacy
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 11:46 AM
You have to also pay attention to everything that was around her- most of the senators of her time were wearing similarly extravagant clothing (look at the Baron Papanoida!) and, to not fit the dresscode of her senatorial peers would have been worse than wearing overly-complex hairdos, in that in a subtle way she would have lost some respect and dignity.
Well-said jedivnsnator  That's what I was trying to get at with my statement, but you said it so much better.
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Input Name
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:50 PM
When did I say they were 'bad'? Although the subject matter is PG-13(ish), it's actually good writing.
I never ment bad as in horrible, I do agree, it is pretty good writing, but the impression you gave was that you didn't like the content. But trust me, if you think that's really...descriptive, some books and writing is alot more intense.
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Input Name
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date Posted: Jun 22, 2006 6:53 PM
It just seems wierd that a very public political figure, who was living in an era that was supposedly so openly corrupt and bachanalian, wasn't aware of what was going on around her, or how her choice of dress would affect the people she came into contact with.
Anyways, back to the blog. She was living in the times, like now-a-days. Times of corruption aren't exacty modest, respectable, or humbly dressed.
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viagoangel2
Were Anakin and Padme' really one?
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date Posted: Jun 23, 2006 10:04 AM
HER CHOICE IN DRESS WOULD AFFECT THE PEOPLE SHE CAME INTO CONTACT WITH....
Ok, this just get sillier to me as it goes on. Lets say she disowned her *elaborate* somewhat *revealing* attire and wore a more modest and peasant style dress.
Don't you think that *radical* change would draw even more attention? Not to say QUESTIONS from others? What would she say? Oh, had to change my wardrobe because this young strapping Jedi was giving me *google eyes* and *gaping* at me?
Come on, get real!
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