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date posted: Mar 02, 2009 8:47 AM  |  updated: Sep 24, 2009 6:05 AM
Clone Wars Continuity Issues
In this blog I'd like to talk about the Clone Wars series and continuity. I really like the Clone Wars. It keeps Star Wars alive and children - who are the future of SW - love it too.

But you will all have noticed that the Clone Wars have shook up the continuity. I'm not even going to talk about the exact time of the series during the Clone Wars because that issue is driving everybody crazy. I hope that somebody will someday try to figure this out.

I'd like to point out a few issues that haven't really disturbed me but surprised me. It seems to me that the Clone Wars try to follow the already established continuity and information but don't care about changing anything to it. Of course George Lucas himself is involved with the making of the series and whatever he wants or wants to be developed will be done, no matter what has been established before. I guess they tend to follow established material but they adapt whatever they feel is necessary for the stories.

# Ahsoka Tano: Don't get me wrong, I like Ahsoka but where did she came from? We never heard that Anakin had any Padawan. So that was a nice surprise but it needs a conclusion so we can understand why Anakin hasn't got Ahsoka anymore as a Padawan in RotS.

# Rotta: This is almost the same. We never heard before that Jabba had a son. Will future publications make more connections between Rotta and Jabba? Though Rotta will still be a Huttlet during the Galactic Civil War.

# Wullf Yularen: Though he is one of favorite characters and the info has already been retconned in several Campaign Guides from Wizards, the makers from the Clone Wars actually thought that Yularen was a Grand Admiral (due to his white outfit). I do not blame them for mixing an ISB agent with a Grand Admiral but I do blame them for thinking that a Grand Admiral appears in the movies...

# Maridun: Though Maridun has always been the planet of the Amanin, we don't see a single Amanin in the two episodes taking place on the planet. Of course there might be regions where the Amanin don't live but it doesn't really give the 'correct' image of the planet to the audience. The Lurmen are featured largely in these episodes and they aren't even natives for they hail from Mygeeto. The Amanin did appear in the webcomic though.

# Orto Plutonia: The planet itself was already mentioned in Threats of the Galaxy as being one the planets where the Narglatch lives so that is no continuity problem. But what are those Talz doing there? Those Talz must have been brought there by a starship or their ancestors were perhaps survivors from a crash of a slaver ship. Solution: The Essential Atlas placed Orto Plutonia close to Alzoc III.

# Pantorans: I don't mind having another blue species in the universe but why make Papanoida a Pantoran? Now there are no more Wroonians in the movies. First Chi Eekway who was in fact a Twi'lek and then Papanoida who turned out to be a Pantoran.

# R6 & R7 Astromech Droids: Kit Fisto, Plo Koon and Ahsoka Tano all have Astromech Droids who look like regular Astromech Droids but who are named R6 or R7. It's impossible for the Droids to be R6 or R7 Astromechs because these series were only established after RotJ in the EU.

# Neeyutnee: Another Naboo Queen. Where did she come from? What happened to Jamillia? What happened to Neeyutnee when Apailana was her successor? What is Gregar Typho doing on Naboo protecting Neeyutnee? It might have been a temporary assignment but Typho, who was secretly in love with Padmé, would never have stayed too long away from Padmé.

# Iego & Angels: I did like this episode but Iego was already established as a seriously haunted and dangerous planet and Iego in the episode is only half haunted. I would have preferred the appearance of Iego to be more dreamlike. Jaybe Hood was a great character and though he did look like Anakin, I would have done more with him. Let's say the Clone Wars showed a soft version of Iego.

The Angels looked totally different than how they were drawn in Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds. I can't say I don't like their new look.

# Ryloth: In the episodes, life will be possible on Ryloth's surface while normally the Twi'lek live underground and the surface doesn't sustain any life ... SOLUTION: The Essential Atlas uses the CW appearance so it seems the old description belongs to the past.

# Anakin & the Defender: Anakin and Artoo pilot the Defender towards the ship of Captain Mar Tuuk. Now, since Anakin could almost pilot the Invisible Hand by himself, I guess he can pilot a Venator by himself as well.

# Blurrgs on Ryloth: What are Blurrgs doing on Ryloth? The only explanation is that the creatures somehow got transported from Endor to Ryloth or ... maybe they aren't actually native to Endor but got stranded there when being transported from Ryloth like so many other creatures that live on the Sanctuary Moon?

#Senators in 'Hostage Crisis': Why does Dantum Roohd wear the same clothes as Giddean Danu? Is he also a representative of Kuat?

To conclude this entry, I'd like to point out a few gaps in the CW information. Sometimes we get really good Databank entries and sometimes no extra information is given and then of course certain things remain unnamed or unknown. We have been lucky that the Clone Wars Campaign Guide has named a lot of things from the first episodes of the Clone Wars.

* What's the designation of the Plunk Droid?
* What's the designation of the Firefighting Battle Droid?
* What planet is represented by Dantum Roohd?
* What planet is represented by Zinn Paulness?
* What are the names of the two Christophsian Senators in 'Hostage Crisis'?
* What's the exact deal with all the Gran Senators, such as Philo and Kharrus? Are some of them Senators who represent Kinyen or Hok instead of Malastare

Master Ki-Aaron-Mundi
I was a Teenage Jedi
date Posted: Mar 02, 2009 10:11 AM
These are all good issues to bring up. While some will be easier fixes than others, I expect that there will be plenty of attempts to explain this stuff--and to redraw the Clone Wars timeline--after the series comes to an end.
nob01
Oil Bath Bubbles
date Posted: Mar 02, 2009 12:53 PM
Nice digging - and I LOLed when I realized I was reading Iego as Lego. We need caps on these 'I's :^O
Hedec Ga
War Journal of Hedec Ga
date Posted: Mar 02, 2009 1:07 PM
Great idea for a blog. As always, you do a great job of categorizing these things. However, I fear this will be a blog that will expand continually as the series progresses :(

I'll be glad in a decade or so when the show is over and someone brilliant will come along to address a lot of these issues and make them make sense!
  Fish1941
date Posted: Mar 02, 2009 1:22 PM
Another Naboo Queen. Where did she come from? What happened to Jamillia? What happened to Neeyutnee when Apailana was her successor?


I have a major problem with this. Before the TV series, it was established that Padme had supsected Jamilla of being sympathetic toward the Separatists and encouraged Apailiana to assume Naboo's throne. Thanks to THE CLONES WARS, this piece of canon has been tinkered due to the introduction of Neeyutnee.
Sompeetalay
Sompeetalay's Source Blog
date Posted: Mar 02, 2009 1:48 PM
Padme had supsected Jamilla of being sympathetic toward the Separatists and encouraged Apailiana to assume Naboo's throne.
< Are you sure about this? I don't seem to remember reading about this.
Gidrea Lightsky
The Galaxy According to Gidrea
date Posted: Mar 03, 2009 8:38 AM
Ashoka could be dead, and they don't talk about her in ROTS because that would show undue attachment (like they never talk about Qui-Gon).

She could be injured and in the infirmary and they just don't happen to talk about her.

She could have been assisgned to another Master by the time ROTS comes along.

In any case, just because they don't talk about her doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't exist.

  Fish1941
date Posted: Mar 03, 2009 9:51 AM
Are you sure about this? I don't seem to remember reading about this.

Wookepedia has two different takes on the matter. On the page for Jamilla, it said this - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jamilla

On the page for Apailana, it said this - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Apailana#Early_life_.2832_BBY_to_19_BBY.29

I suspect that the addition of the Neeyutnee character in THE CLONES WARS caused this contradiction.
Sompeetalay
Sompeetalay's Source Blog
date Posted: Mar 03, 2009 10:00 AM
- Of course there are many solutions for Ahsoka but will we know which one is being chosen by Lucasfilm?

- Wookieepedia isn't always reliable. I've commented on the Jamillia matter myself on WP.
  usetheforce19
MasterMonkey13
date Posted: Mar 03, 2009 5:50 PM
Nice digging - and I LOLed when I realized I was reading Iego as Lego.

Yeah, me too! :^O

Yeah, I really do wonder what will ahppen to Ahsoka. My theory.
Krash
Shadow 12 standing by!
date Posted: Mar 05, 2009 9:54 PM
Good blog, some interesting things you point out!

Ashoka - I think she's going to be with this series for a while, and we may never find out what happened to her. If TFU was any indication... alot of jedi escaped the purge!

I do not blame them for mixing an ISB agent with a Grand Admiral but I do blame them for thinking that a Grand Admiral appears in the movies...
Isn't it possible that after the Clone Wars, Admiral Yularen was promoted to the rank of Grand Admiral...as an ISB agent?

  KiMiTe
date Posted: Mar 15, 2009 4:09 PM
For some reason i want to know what the Twi'leki intstrument, from The Ballad of Cham Syndulla, is called. I'm a little disappointed that the latest episodes lack databank entries.

I hope you will be able to shorten that list during this summer Somp. I mean, when The Clone Wars is on break, they should have time to update the databank. :)
Sompeetalay
Sompeetalay's Source Blog
date Posted: Mar 15, 2009 4:13 PM
I agree with you about the instrument and about the absence of Databank entries. But do you believe they will be updated? What about the excellent Visual Guides that stopped without giving us any reason? Since then we've gotten got a lot of useless reports and news about promotions or toys.
  KiMiTe
date Posted: Mar 17, 2009 4:35 PM
Yes, because at the end of the episode guides, under the Key Databank Entries- section, it says: "... and more to come!" So I hope that means something.

As for the Visual Guides... When they stopped and even the existing ones are nowhere to be found at the same time the site got a new look. I hope they are working on it, that they will be added in the new format.

I'm not a Hyperspace-member. But I wonder if the ones that are get any information about these sort of things. When the visual guides and the What's the Story stopped for example.
Sompeetalay
Sompeetalay's Source Blog
date Posted: Mar 18, 2009 12:00 AM
I wish I had your confidence. I fear that in 2012 'more to come' will still be there. I've always been a Hyperspace member and I never got any word about the Visual Guides or WTS. Now, I wasn't totally disappointed when WTS stopped. It could be exhausting from time to time :) But I totally loved the Visual Guides! It should have been the first thing to bring back when the site was altered.
  KiMiTe
date Posted: Apr 06, 2009 2:06 PM
I just read about the Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Decoded, and I think thay look promising.
I fear that most of the information will be old news, but still hope for some new goodies. The designation of that "bunny droid" for example ;)
Sompeetalay
Sompeetalay's Source Blog
date Posted: Apr 06, 2009 2:36 PM
I know. I don't like it. I probably won't be able to see this edition and that info could just as easily be published on SW.com
padme5042
date Posted: May 23, 2009 2:04 PM
It is meant for children and has no connection to the canon story regarding continuity.
Sompeetalay
Sompeetalay's Source Blog
date Posted: May 23, 2009 4:08 PM
Since when did that become an issue? There have been so many books for children that have been incorporated into the canon as well and they are waaaaaay more silly than CW.

After all, Star Wars wasn't originally meant for adults, either.
  KiMiTe
date Posted: Jun 12, 2009 3:00 PM
I'm not sure, but I think the unidentified female senator, from Hostage Crisis, shows up in the leaked trailer for season 2. She's standing beside a new female character who's talking to Obi-Wan.
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