I dont think im going to be doing console systems anymore. Ill stick with PC's. Theyre far more versatile than anything the console makers can come up with.

Ok, yes I agree with you Kyle, but a lot of fun is to be had with consoles, just not with anything Sony. Go Microsoft and Nintendo! I hope Sony creates a dumb controller that everyone hates!

as a lifelong xbox fan (its life, not mine....) i must say that im really just not that interested in the 360...gone is the cool black console, and in return is something that reminds me of an ifruit from foxtrot...

not to mention my lack of broadband gaming interest....and the new 360 only comes with a hard drive if you buy the expensive set up? the hard drive feature is what sold me on xbox in the first place...

im all for xbox live, but to shift the focus away from traditional gaming to online play is going to lose them a few, probably not alot, but a few customers....

I'll take the total package!

Now all I need is a date for this baby.

that is bull @#$% i was hopeing to get the 360 with a WIRELESS controler and the Hard drive just as standered but now ill have to kick in the exrta 150-170 bucks to buy the better one and a game for it and another controller or ill have to wait for Xmas and i totally agree with Lego i think sony sould go out of business or do something illegal and gge tkicked out from the US

But the 360 plays Xbox games from the old one

I pray that it is backwards compatible. I'm holding out on buying the old one just to buy this new one. That is depressing about the hard drive being in the deluxe set only.

I'm also wondering which Star Wars games will be exclusive to the 360 in the future.

i sure miss my Commordore 64.

Behold the Commordore 64!

http://www.c64.com/

There are emulators available for running old C64 apps on the PC.